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Oslo 2010: Televoting during entire shows

Posted by Sietse Bakker on 26 October 2009 at 17:01 updated 26 November 2009 at 17:05
Oslo 2010: Televoting during entire shows
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During the Semi-Finals and Final of the 2010 Eurovision Song Contest in Oslo, you will hear that famous sentence "Europe, start voting now!" a bit earlier, as you will be able to cast your votes by telephone and/or SMS during the entire show, instead of for just 15 minutes. From the start of the first song until 15 minutes after the end of the last song performed, votes can be cast. The Reference Group of the contest decided that.

"It is more logic to pick up the telephone and cast your vote while hearing and seeing a song, rather than at the end the performances. Experiences from several national selections also show that this extended voting window is beind used with success," Svante Stockselius, Executive Supervisor of the Eurovision Song Contest on behalf of the EBU, said to Eurovision.tv.

The total impact of the televoting will be higher due to extended possibilities to cast votes, and reduces the possibility of telecom providers' systems reaching their capacity limits. Research by the EBU's televoting partner Digame clearly shows that the first songs, that have a longer voting exposure, will not unfairly benefit from this. The same research in fact shows that the tendency is that people vote while their favourite song is being performed, no matter where it is performed in the running order. The experience from the Junior Eurovision Song Contest, where the extended voting window was introduced three years ago, also supports this fact, as songs with a late starting number in fact won the contest.

The voting procedure is one of the most strictly monitored elements of the Eurovision Song Contest, to assure a fair result. Since 2004, the EBU works with the German-based company Digame to coordinate the voting procedure. A significant part of the televoting revenues is being distributed back to the participating public broadcasters.

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jan vd wal

Comment by jvdw1

Posted on 7 February 2010 at 22:36
As if Eurovision already hasn't too long a history of bad decisions. Well, this seems to be the worst of them all. How can there be fair voting when people can cast their votes without hearing out all the songs? Or has the Eurovision organisation finally realised that (most) people don't vote on the basis of quality, but base their judgement on geographical/political affiliations? It looks as if the Eurovision song contest organisation is determined to continue to kill all ESC appetite and with it Eurovision’s claims to being a song contest. Unless next year is going to be the year in which we’ll see the return of 100% professional juries. The haydays of democracy are over.... It’s been destroyed by the people.
hannah smith

Comment by hanhan

Posted on 6 January 2010 at 19:25
Im not sure about this
Atilla Ulusoy

Comment by Atilla from Azerbaijan

Posted on 28 November 2009 at 11:05
They should decide it once more! Diasporas will take the highest scores this way!

Watch group NEXT, reported Azerbaijani representative in ESC 2010, Oslo, NORWAY:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3Ui0Ez5Ti8
Gloria Chen

Comment by Gloria_Chen from China

Posted on 6 November 2009 at 14:50
I agree with erener from United Kingdom. We can ask ourselves first how we usually decide which songs to vote for. If one follows the contest very keenly, before the finals take place, he or she will often have a few favourites in mind and will probably vote for them. The performances on the final nights do matter, but possibly not very much. If one has a neighbour, he or she usually will give some consideration to voting for it. "Responsible" voters will wait till the end of all performances to decide and those are the voters the contest should appreciate the most. So the new voting rule might not affect the voting results that much as some predict. The main purpose of introducing it, I believe, is to increase the revenue.
I remember someone question the 15 minutes time limit of voting, so to extend voting time may also address that concern.
Bjørn

Comment by Avis2 from Norway

Posted on 5 November 2009 at 20:01
Very good idea! Did you not see which company is "presenting partner" (top page logo)!? Long live tele-companies thruout Europe!
Jim Hawkins

Comment by brazilnut54 from United States

Posted on 1 November 2009 at 20:32
Terrible idea!!! If you thought voting was biased before, this will just make things worse! Instead of voting for the songs AFTER having heard and seen all the acts, people will be voting for neighboring countries or, at best, based on the YouTube previous they saw. This is indeed the worse idea that the ESC committee has ever had!
James Eurovision

Comment by UK_Fan from United Kingdom

Posted on 31 October 2009 at 16:51
Bad idea. How can you know what is the best song/songs until you have seen them all?
Atilla Ulusoy

Comment by Atilla from Azerbaijan

Posted on 31 October 2009 at 16:48
Sure mobile operators will earn money ten times more than they have taken from ESC till now! But will European music earn? Some poor songs might get more votes thanks to diasporas!
Luke Malam

Comment by Lukex115

Posted on 29 October 2009 at 20:39
I'm still not so sure about this...even with that research...I still think that songs nearer to the beginning of the contest will get an unfair advantage...people might think that their favourite song is the first one to be performed, and then later on, they will hear a different song which they like more and want to change their vote...I think the previous method, voting after all the songs are performed, is much better. Imagine someone who hasn't actually read this article watch the contest, they would immediately think "That is unfair, surely the songs nearer the beginning will get more votes?" when they tune in...
TIMO MATTILA

Comment by Fan of Eurovision from Finland

Posted on 29 October 2009 at 20:34
I think that this is a very good idea. First songs may get more votes.
Raymond Sammut

Comment by mundu-sammut from Australia

Posted on 29 October 2009 at 05:59
All this will do is allow the Greeks to give 12 points to the Cypriots at the start of the first song, allow the Cypriots to give 12 points to the Greeks at the start of the first song, and clog the telephone networks at the end of the 24th song. Some people say it's a good idea and some people say it's a bad idea.
Christopher Rowe

Comment by KernowKid from United Kingdom

Posted on 28 October 2009 at 11:19
In addition to my comment earlier, have the BBC been consulted on this, why? I believe following the Televote scandals that this system would be thrown out by OFCOM the UK regulator as it fails to offer the voting viewer equal access to ALL the choices which is one of their policies. Incidentally why when it is known to be flawed does the EBU choose to continue to use SMS for voting.
Christopher Rowe

Comment by KernowKid from United Kingdom

Posted on 28 October 2009 at 00:27
Seems so backward, obviously the songs at the front end have more exposure and are likely to get more votes accordingly. If you are choosing the best song, how possibly without listening to the others can you select before all have been heard.

Peculiar decision, especially after the excellent Jury decision.
Susanna T

Comment by SusannaofArmenia from United States

Posted on 27 October 2009 at 23:50
as I understood, no matter what EBU does it will be wrong. so how about all of you become the EBU and start making the "right" decisions (I doubt that any of the decisions will be right anyway). This is a SONG contest not a first-come first-serve contest. GET OVER IT, ACCEPT IT!
James Greene

Comment by oralbpulsar2 from Poland

Posted on 27 October 2009 at 15:20
Good, good, but don't make it like "live predicitions of winner" or "let's checkin' out who's the leader now !".
yoni Israel

Comment by YONISRAEL

Posted on 27 October 2009 at 15:11
ya anyway lol good luck to all the countries =P
altough i think if shiri maimo will represent israel..
israel wins.
not bimbos hate idiots

Comment by real_music_not_bimbos and fakers

Posted on 27 October 2009 at 13:54
da, HAI ROMÂNIA! :)
olsi mema

Comment by olsi mema from Albania

Posted on 27 October 2009 at 13:20
it sims like a good idea...
Gary Speirs

Comment by Cymgary from United Kingdom

Posted on 27 October 2009 at 11:32
Logic says that this will be a disadvantage for songs that are performed towards the end of the show and also promote 2 hours of manic voting for songs from countries that have benefitted from neighbourly voting recent years prior to 2009. 2009 was the fairest contest since the semi finals were introduced and I just hope that the jury voting will counter-act the likely inomalies I would expect out of this. Some expats are just more pationate about voting for their home country than others. I am not convinced about this, but will keep an open mind. 2009 should be the benchmark though - no need to keep changing things.
Peter Walsh

Comment by erener from United Kingdom

Posted on 27 October 2009 at 11:05
I think it is a good idea under the current economic climate. Like it or not, broadcasters are making budget cutbacks and some are considering withdrawing from ESC as a way of saving money. If the volume of televotes increases, then this shoudl result in increased revenues back to the broadcasters which may make them reconsider any idea of ESC withdrawal.
Having seen how this has worked in JESC, the songs at the start do not get any added benefit from extra televoting time as 2 of the last 3 winners performed last.
Also, some say taht it will mean many diasporas spending over an hour voting for their own countries. So what! It will mean extra revenues and it will make no difference to the destination of the televote 10 and 12 points complared to the 15 minute window voting system. The fact that we now have 50/50 jury/televoting in both the semis and the final will even this imbalance.
Michael Leftheriotis

Comment by Markouli from Australia

Posted on 27 October 2009 at 05:48
I think it is a good idea. Will see what happens next year.
Andy D

Comment by ListigRaev from United States

Posted on 27 October 2009 at 00:59
I think this was a bad decision. I agree with what others have said; people will simply vote for their favorite country, and not so much the best performance that night. This system will only favor those at the later end of the running order, whose fans will engage in compensatory voting, and be a huge disadvantage to Norway and the Big 4, who will not have the benefit of performing their songs prior to the Final (though, I guess they could perform their songs on the nights they vote after the interval act).

All in all, this was a bad decision; hopefully it won't be around beyond this one year.
Jörg Wittfoht

Comment by marcelffm from Germany

Posted on 26 October 2009 at 22:17
I don't think this was a good decition of the Referenc Group. I'll not vote more for my favorite songs, because I've reduse my voting because of the high costs. Perhaps it'll help the people they are not very much interested in the contest and hear the songs the first time while watching. How can I vote for the fiste songs, when I don't know the others. For me it's logical to vote for my favorite, when I heard all the songs.
And how the experience from the JuniorESC shows, that the songs with a late starting number have an advantage. We have the same in the history of the ESC - most of the winning songs had a late starting number. This is again a disadvantage for the songs in the first part of the show.
not bimbos hate idiots

Comment by real_music_not_bimbos and fakers

Posted on 26 October 2009 at 22:12
the phone from the above pic is a Nokia!
David Golrokhian

Comment by EuRo fan from Denmark

Posted on 26 October 2009 at 22:09
one word: Stupid

this rule started in JESC 2006 and so if you are the first to sing it wont help

In JESC 2006 portugal was first but ended almost on last place
It's not gonna help, But we will see

HAI ROMANIA !!! :-D
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